Hellfire
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Post by Hellfire on Jun 20, 2007 23:22:15 GMT 1
heyho ;D ;D ;D
I'm so happy, since C4 started on dragon and every1 decided to start a necro, I was looking for a weakpoint. I experienced with dyes, hp differences, nothing suitable. In the end i wasn't even sure, if they only have a weakpoint in C5.
But finally I found it, now it schould be able fight necros/warloc-subs as you fight warrior classes.
Now it is easy for me, I cannot understand why I not saw it, awesome.
The weakness of necromancers is what makes them stronger. Got it? It is their summon. Unfortunately, NC-Soft made a little error in planning the summoners class. Transfer Pain. If you look on the use of TP and what it really does, it is easy.
How to finish a necro: First concentrate on the summon. All summons have weak defense-stats even if they are buffed you can finish them with 3 or 4 shots. This is the first time TP is working for you, cause it not transfers the damage a servitor recive to the master. You think that is good, but it means he recives all dmg. When you've token down the servitor (dont worry about pks, for killing servitor you only get red, but no PK point). Finish them off, without a servitor an unsubbed necro has 3k hp max, if you are warrior it will be very easy, as nuker you have to be fast. Those who subbed DA have no additional hp, and since last update, no differences in p.def and m.def. The only difficulty could be pp-subs, but they cannot do that much dmg, they cannot equip int dyes. If you have to face a mutant (Overlord/necro, make sure u have a bishop near u) the bishop can take down the cursed man faster than u (dont forget holy weapon). You only have to concentrate on the mutant.
Good luck out there, i hope it is helpful
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Post by Aklomion on Jun 21, 2007 6:47:38 GMT 1
so allways kill summon first O.o goot to know but still those ashole give a lot of dmg -_- I got 2-4k dmg not in siege + anchor probaly need at least A-grade set jewely I gues I still have B :/
if u kill summon and u die u wont drop?
tnx for infos maybe now I will survive necro atk
btw u know how to kill TH? I still have a litle problem with that its easy with DO but I dont think I can do it with SD
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Post by Tratincica on Jun 21, 2007 11:00:56 GMT 1
If u kill summon and u go red he can kill u without flagging. U will need to pk nekro if u wanna win. Summon is realy weak point. If ure fighting nekro 1vs1 u need to focus on summon 1st. But that means nekro have at least 5 seconds to nuke u, curse u, use his summon to hit u and so on. He will probably keep his summon away from u anyway. Unless summon if buffed, then he will use him to hit u.
If u wanna win against nekro, u have to silence him, stun him, bluff or some other debuff. Cancel+sleep wins battle almost every time. Stun will give u time to kill summon.
Nekros are tought even without summon. PP/nekro have 8.4k HP with songs and selfbuffs and 1.9k CP so, he can take alot before going down. So, u need to disable him from attacking u, coz he can take much more than most other chars so, if u wanna just nuke him to death, he will win.
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Hellfire
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Post by Hellfire on Jun 21, 2007 12:42:31 GMT 1
A PP/Necro with songs might get 8,4k hp, but i know only one moron who only goes outside towns fullbuffed. The rest has max pp buffs, so not that difficult.
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Post by TidusDark on Jul 31, 2007 15:42:54 GMT 1
me as a pp/necro do aprove what hell has to say the weakpoint is actually to kill a necro's summon first but without dying it is at the end u also have moments where u encounter pp/necro against pp/necro then u have to give yourself and summon holy weapon and kill the opponents summon as fast as u can by nuking and letting ur summon attack his after that the opponent will be nothing unless it's a fdonator with boss jews then he will be doing lots a damage on you while his summon dies
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Post by Belgarion Riva on Jul 31, 2007 22:31:19 GMT 1
you guys remember nethazor? he subbed as bishop... He's absolutely unkillable... He pvp's someone, he's all purple and heals himself until he becomes white while 15 ppl attack him >.< ( his summon dies but not him... ) tidus! I jsut read what was said above ur kitty!! LMAOOO!!!
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Denis
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Post by Denis on Aug 3, 2007 3:02:29 GMT 1
nahh he can die just trcik switch smack smack dead or stun =P
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Post by TidusDark on Aug 3, 2007 4:17:22 GMT 1
@at belg yo uhmm not actually he is killable lol's because he's a bp he does not have uffs liek a pp so u can silence sleep or wtf ever stops him from healing hihi i know cause i dealth with such a situation @denix lol not every1 is a dumbass as u think when i have to fight some1 like u or some1 who ahs a high atckspeed and has trick or somekind liek that at 1 vs 1 i woulsd make a makro if it is a random pvp outside of town with a lot of people well i have to trust on my eyes and my clicking ability ow and don't forget we didn't pvp yet since i got my new DEBUFFS whahahahaha they work without a target ^-^
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Post by Belgarion Riva on Aug 5, 2007 2:18:07 GMT 1
ohhh *staring at screen and understanding* O.O *now staring at emo kitty sooo cute* :* ^_^ Edit: thanks man, Iwent up against a necro yesterday and I don't think I would have won if I haven't read this.
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Omega31
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Post by Omega31 on Oct 1, 2007 18:02:10 GMT 1
hahaha xD thats funny never knew they could be so weak becuz of summon but u are considering that most of ppl (fighters) are humans, elves, dark elves, u arent considering the fact that a necro/(pp, warlock, whatever) in a fight with an destroyer (me for example) he will win inedvertly cuz orcs (destroyers) are slow and have a dam weak m def, even dwarves can kill necros (they are faster for start) but not destroyer, we are slow, tanking, power hunger, battle readdy armored self propeled war machines (my kind of definition ^^), but against magic?? only with tateo unsealed ++++++++++ if u find a way of destroyers win a pvp agains necros without using a friend please tell me i would be very apreciated ^^ btw desto with bow?? naah very short range and considering that both are full buffed necro kills me before even reach him ^^
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Post by Zeus2K on Oct 1, 2007 19:31:17 GMT 1
yes, thats the only solution
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Post by callistos on Oct 1, 2007 20:15:28 GMT 1
hahaha xD thats funny never knew they could be so weak becuz of summon but u are considering that most of ppl (fighters) are humans, elves, dark elves, u arent considering the fact that a necro/(pp, warlock, whatever) in a fight with an destroyer (me for example) he will win inedvertly cuz orcs (destroyers) are slow and have a dam weak m def, even dwarves can kill necros (they are faster for start) but not destroyer, we are slow, tanking, power hunger, battle readdy armored self propeled war machines (my kind of definition ^^), but against magic?? only with tateo unsealed ++++++++++ if u find a way of destroyers win a pvp agains necros without using a friend please tell me i would be very apreciated ^^ btw desto with bow?? naah very short range and considering that both are full buffed necro kills me before even reach him ^^ U shouldnt stress about such things, orcs<mages it was meant to be, focus on stuf where you got the upper hand i think you can kill most melee fighters on fullbuff
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Fritola
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Post by Fritola on Nov 26, 2007 15:53:43 GMT 1
heyho ;D ;D ;D I'm so happy, since C4 started on dragon and every1 decided to start a necro, I was looking for a weakpoint. I experienced with dyes, hp differences, nothing suitable. In the end i wasn't even sure, if they only have a weakpoint in C5. But finally I found it, now it schould be able fight necros/warloc-subs as you fight warrior classes. Now it is easy for me, I cannot understand why I not saw it, awesome. The weakness of necromancers is what makes them stronger. Got it? It is their summon. Unfortunately, NC-Soft made a little error in planning the summoners class. Transfer Pain. If you look on the use of TP and what it really does, it is easy. How to finish a necro: First concentrate on the summon. All summons have weak defense-stats even if they are buffed you can finish them with 3 or 4 shots. This is the first time TP is working for you, cause it not transfers the damage a servitor recive to the master. You think that is good, but it means he recives all dmg. When you've token down the servitor (dont worry about pks, for killing servitor you only get red, but no PK point). Finish them off, without a servitor an unsubbed necro has 3k hp max, if you are warrior it will be very easy, as nuker you have to be fast. Those who subbed DA have no additional hp, and since last update, no differences in p.def and m.def. The only difficulty could be pp-subs, but they cannot do that much dmg, they cannot equip int dyes. If you have to face a mutant (Overlord/necro, make sure u have a bishop near u) the bishop can take down the cursed man faster than u (dont forget holy weapon). You only have to concentrate on the mutant. Good luck out there, i hope it is helpful Pls log in game , get your BEST EQUIP , donate 150 coins , buy red arcana+a or what u want and CHALLENGE -- Vitar -- . Hes pp/necro . If u will lucky , u will kill him . BUT only if u wil have red weapon and luck . Dasnt matter what class you are in pvp . All what u need is EXPERIENCES , BRAIN and NO LAGZ . I canot decline, that my SH/SE have just no chance vs bow or ty/de .. but if u get skil , u jsut can kill everyone . Skil in pvp (against necro agains whatever against mutants) isnt in "yes ,he have no heal or resist, i can easy kill him " . Imagine that lot of macros for selfbuff . Macro for self heal .. macro against mage bane .. against cancel .. against surender .. right after he get some curse on himself (like is surrender , bane ... ) he just press macro for "Resist Wind/water/fire" and hes again without it .. he obtaine mage bane (emp+acu down) he press macro for acu pot/matack pot ... IS TOO MANY thinks which ALL CHARACTERS must learn use , that then rly dasnt matter on what u are , but how long u play . U know .. when Vitar obtaine silence :-) ... Is here stil 70% probability, that u will die , cause of Cursed Man +8 . Tactic isnt start TP and look how slow your hp are going down .. tactic is .. "once u send cursed to fight ,cause you know he cnaot be canceled .. once u get them back and u se just only to TP (vs SPS or SORC) .. Thats essence of pvp . Not "i have bigger damage" or "i am necro.. pwn"
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Boro
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Post by Boro on Nov 26, 2007 17:55:19 GMT 1
Macros suck they are way too slow
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Post by vincenety on Nov 26, 2007 19:47:50 GMT 1
Macros suck they are way too slow Omg Boro is pro like me
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